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Special Files - Bundle 14: No.13 Massacre of Polynesians on board the Carl

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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 - cover page.jpg C72/46

Bundle 14.

No 13.

Massacre of Polynesians on board the "Carl" 1872

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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 14 small.jpg Telegram of Ten Words can be sent to any Station in Victoria for One Shilling.

BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.

No. Words 17 NO FEES TO BE PAID UNLESS STAMPED HEREON.

Check Sydney Dated August 30th 1872

The following despatch has been received for delivery, subject to the Regulations and Conditions under which Telegraphic Messages are authorized to be transmitted in Victoria.

4/9

Telegram for His Excellency Viscount Canterbury Toorak S. Yarra

6d TO PAY

Regret being unable to give any information as to Dr Murray having been recognised as Queen's evidence

(Signature) Commodore Stirling

Sydney

For Regulations and Conditions see other side.

Telegram - August 30, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 9 small.jpg Telegram of Ten Words can be sent to any Station in Victoria for One Shilling.

ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH, VICTORIA.

O. H. M. S. confidential Similar message to Sir H Robinson Augt 30th. 72

To Commodore Stirling R. N. H. M. S. Clio Sydney 187

Address Command [ ?? ]

THIS MESSAGE is presented for Transmission subject to the Regulations and Conditions under which Telegraphic Messages are authorized to be transmitted in Victoria.


10 Words, 1s.

It has been asserted here that Dr. Murray was recognized

One Penny for every Additional Word.

by Consul March as Queen’s Evidence to prove ativities [sic ] committed by Brig Carl. Have you any information on this point

Additional words to be carried over.

By

Check Recd

Words Sent

Signature and Address of Sender Canterbury.

For Regulations and Conditions see other side.

[ Margin ] By Authority: JOHN FERRIS, Government Printer, Melb[ ?ourne ]

Telegram - August 30, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 14 1 small.jpg Telegram of Ten Words can be sent to any Station in Victoria for One Shilling.

BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.

No. Words 20 NO FEES TO BE PAID UNLESS STAMPED HEREON.

Check Sydney Dated August 31st 1872

The following despatch has been received for delivery, subject to the Regulations and Conditions under which Telegraphic Messages are authorized to be transmitted in Victoria.

5/6 pd

Telegram for His Exy Viscount Canterbury K. C B South Yarra

6d TO PAY

Consull March in a letter to me and in a certificate given to Dr Murray recognised him as Queen’s evidence

(Signature) Sir. H. Robinson

Sydney

For Regulations and Conditions see other side.

Telegram - August 31, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 3 small.jpg O. H. M. S.

M72/42 5000-8/72 Local No. .............. TRANSMISSION FORM Reference No. ...........

Electric Telegraph Victoria

BRITISH AND AUSTRALIAN LINE

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CHARGES.

No. of Words......

Amount ... ... £ : :

Repeating ... ... £ : :

Reply paid... ... £ : :

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TIME.

Received H. M.

Despatched H. M.

Transmitted by.........

Date Stamp of Despatching Office.

NOTHING TO BE WRITTEN BY THE SENDER ABOVE THIS

Please send the following Message in accordance with the Regulations and Conditions printed on the back hereof :-

From whom.

Name and Address (counted in Message.) Governor: Victoria

To whom Addressed. Name and Address (counted in Message). Earl Kimberley London.

Governor of New South Wales has informed me that Her Majesty's Consul at Fiji gave certificate to James Patrick Murray recognising him Queen's Evidence respecting outrages committed on board brig Carl. Believe that you

MESSAGE TO BE CONTINUED ON OTHER SIDE IF NECESSARY

[Before signing please see that the amount charged for the Message is correctly entered above.]

(Signature and full Address of Sender (not counted))

The Government will not be answerable for errors caused by indistinct writing.

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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 10 small.jpg Telegram to Commodore Stirling Sydney.

C72/43.

25/11/72.

Prosecution commenced here against Mount + Morris for alleged crimes on board Brig Carl. Evidence of Lt. Taylor R.N. considered essential. Have to request you will take necessary steps for

Telegram (draft) page 1 - November 25, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 12 small.jpg [ This text follows on from page07=16-10 ]

sending his evidence [ ?? ] here when his free time allows. Will give earliest possible notice of that time. This Government will of course defray all expenses approved by me.

[ Illegible scrawl might be initials or “3rd Coy” ]

Telegram (draft) page 2 - November 25, 1872


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[ text obscured ] New South Wales has informed me [ text obscured ] Her Majesty’s Consul at Figi [ text obscured ] certificate to James [ ?? ] Murray [re ] cognizing him Queen’s Evidence respecting outrages committed on board Brig Carl. Believe that you have copy of Certificate

[ In pencil ] Is honour of Crown thereby pledged to prevent prosecution in Victoria of Murray if he comes here. R----

Is honour of Crown thereby pledged to prevent prosecution in Victoria of Murray if he comes here.

Telegram (draft) page 3 - November 25, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 13 small.jpg Telegram of Ten Words can be sent to any Station in Victoria for One Shilling.

BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.

No. Words 24 NO FEES TO BE PAID UNLESS STAMPED HEREON.

Check 1/6 pd Dated Sydney Novr 26 1872

The following despatch has been received for delivery, subject to the Regulations and Conditions under which Telegraphic Messages are authorized to be transmitted in Victoria.

Telegram for Lord Canterbury Toorak

Lieutenant Taylor’s service at your disposal can you tell me about date he is likely to be required as Cossack is going New Zealand

(Signature) Commodore Stirling

Sydney

For Regulations and Conditions see other side.

Telegram - November 26, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 2 small.jpg Copy of Telegram from Earl Kimberley to the Governor of Victoria

London

29th Novr. 1872

The view we take of effect of Consul’s certificate to Murray is that if he gave Queen’s evidence at Sydney he should not be prosecuted in any port of British Dominion for same proceeding.

(sigd) Kimberley

Telegram (Copy) - November 29, 1872


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Crown Law Offices

Melbourne

4th December 1872

72/5884

Memorandum for His Excellency the Governor

The Attorney General has the honor to inform His Excellency that since the last report on the subject of the “Carl” outrage, the following steps have been taken by the Government in the matter:-

Two of the passengers on board the “Carl” Messrs Mount and Morris have been arrested in Victoria and are now under remand. Of these two there is reason to believe that one at least, - Mount, - took a prominent part in the outrages committed.

The Government of New South Wales has been constantly and confidentially communicated with and a Superintendent of Police has been sent to Sydney to investigate the facts of the case on the spot and secure the attendance of Witnesses in Melbourne. To this end every facility has been afforded by the Government

of

Memo page 1 - December 4, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 15 small.jpg of New South Wales and several witnesses have already been sent from Sydney.

There is no reason to suppose that the two men above named will not be committed for trial, and it is hoped that it will be unnecessary, either in securing their committal, or at the subsequent trial, to have recourse to the evidence of Dr. Murray.

Another arrest has also been made of a seaman who was on board the “Carl” at the time of the outrage; but he does not appear to have been specially implicated in any way and it is under consideration whether he shall be admitted at give evidence against Mount and Morris.

Sigd J W Stephen

Attorney General

True Copy W. McD

Memo page 2 - December 4, 1872


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Telegram of Ten Words can be sent to any Station in Victoria for One Shilling.

BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.

No. Words 11 NO FEES TO BE PAID UNLESS STAMPED HEREON.

Check 3/3 Dated Sydney 11th Dec r 1872

The following despatch has been received for delivery, subject to the Regulations and Conditions under which Telegraphic Messages are authorized to be transmitted in Victoria.

Telegram for His Excellency Lord Canterbury

When Can Lieutenant Taylor be spared to return to the Cossack

(Signature) Commodore Stirling

For Regulations and Conditions see other side.

Telegram - December 12, 1872


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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 7 small.jpg Desp. Book vol 7. p. 668

C73/1

Enclosure C

Despatch Book Vol. 7. P. 672.

Memorandum for His Excellency the Right Honorable Viscount Canterbury K.C.B. Governor of Victoria.

Since the date of the Chief Secretarys previous minute to His Excellency offering the Victoria S.S. to assist in putting a stop to the kidnapping of the natives of the Polynesian Islands a deputation has waited on the Government urging that steps should be taken to restore to their homes the survivors of the massacre on board the Carl at present at Fiji, and amounting it is stated to about a hundred and forty four persons.

The Chief Secretary informed the deputation that no special obligation rested upon this

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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 6 small.jpg Colony to return those persons to their native islands and that although he personally felt strong sympathy in the feelings they expressed he could not avoid seeing that if the Government undertook to provide a vessel as the deputation pressed it to do, to convey them back, its action would be liable to be misconstrued into a kind of admission that the Colony regarded itself as being answerable for the wrongs perpetrated by those on board the Carl and responsible for seeing those wrongs redressed.

Being however urged not to allow these considerations to stand in the way of an act of humanity, and being also given to understand that unless some

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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 4 small.jpg authority [ intervened ] on their behalf the unfortunate persons referred to would in all probability remain deprived of their liberty for a lengthened period Mr. Francis finally consented to bring the matter under His Excellency's notice. He now does so, and he desires at the same time to acquaint His Excellency that if the Commodore in command of Her Majesty's squadron on this Station or Consul March at Levuka is of opinion under all the circumstances of the case that the kidnapped islanders should be sought out and restored to their homes and that this could be done in an efficient and speedy manner.

The Government of the Colony is prepared in the interests of humanity,

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VPRS 1095 P0, unit 16 5 small.jpg [ Cutting taken from Hobart Mercury, Saturday January 11, 1873 ]

THE CARL CAPTIVES.

The following correspondence relative to the release of the Carl captives has passed between the Chief Secretary and Commodore Sterling :-

[COPY.]

Memorandum to his Excellency the Right Hon. Viscount Canterbury, K.C.B., Governor of Victoria.

Since the date of the Chief Secretary's previous minute to his Excellency, offering the Victoria steamship to assist in putting a stop to the kidnapping of the natives of the Polynesian Islands, a deputation waited on the Government urging that steps should be taken to restore to their homes the survivors of the massacre on board the Carl at present at Fiji, and amounting it is stated to about 144 persons.

The Chief Secretary informed the deputation that no special obligation rested on this colony to restore those persons to their native islands, and that, although he personally felt some sympathy with the feelings they expressed, he could not avoid seeing that if the Government undertook to provide a vessel (as the deputation expressed it to the Government) to convey them back, its action would be liable to be misconstrued into a kind of admission that the colony regarded itself as being answerable for the wrongs perpetrated on board the Carl, and responsible for seeing the wrongs redressed.

Being, however, urged not to allow these considerations to stand in the way of an act of humanity, and being also given to understand that unless some authority intervened on their behalf the unfortunate persons referred to would, in all probability, remain deprived of their liberty for a lengthened period, Mr. Francis finally consented to bring the matter under your Excellency's notice. He now does so, and desires, at the same time, to acquaint his Excellency that if the commodore in command of Her Majesty's squadron on this station, or Consul March at Levuka, is of opinion, under all the circumstances of the case, that the kidnapped islanders should be sought out and returned to their homes, and that this could be done in an efficient and speedy manner. The Government of this colony is prepared, in the interests of humanity, and if the object in view has not been effected previously by Imperial authority, or by other means, to incur any reasonable cost to that end, even to the extent of placing the Victoria at the disposal of the commodore for the purpose, if no other plan suggests itself. (Signed) J.G. FRANCIS.

Clio, at Sydney, 27th December, 1872.

My Lord,-In reply to your lordship's letter, dated 19th December, 1872, enclosing copy of a memorandum submitted to you by the Chief Secretary of Victoria, recommending that steps should be taken for the restoration to their homes of the survivors of the massacres on board the Carl.

I have the honour to acquaint your lordship that this subject has already engaged my attention, and I am now taking steps towards the desired object.

There will not be much difficulty in returning the Line islanders to their homes; but as regards the Solomon islanders great care will have to be used. Your lordship is doubtless aware that if the latter are landed on any spot, even a mile from their homes, they will be killed by the neighbouring natives. There will be great difficulty in finding out where these spots are, and in tracing the natives now in Fiji.

It is not so much the want of ships, as the foregoing circumstances, which prevent, on the instant, the return of the natives to their homes. Some little time must elapse in making preliminary arrangements, and in communicating with H.M.'s Consul at Levuka, and Mr. Codrington, at Norfolk Island, to whom I intend to apply for assistance in the way of interpreters and information.

It may become absolutely necessary to request Dr. Murray's assistance, but I am very loath to do this; and, indeed, shall not, unless I find that his aid cannot be dispensed with.

If at any time I find that the Victoria will be of any assistance in performing this charitable object, I shall not fail to apply to the Victorian Government for her, or for any other help which they may reasonably give under the circumstances.

I have the honour to be, my lord, your lordship's obedient servant, F.H. STIRLING

Commodore, Commanding-in-Chief.

P.S. - Of the number landed at Fiji, only sixty were Solomon Islanders. Many of those natives, have, I hear, since died.

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